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Crankjam – a social network for rock climbers

On a scale of 1 to 10, Crankjam seems creepy and weird.

Wait, hold on.  Let me explain.

While on Facebook, I saw an advertisement related to rock climbing.  I like rock climbing.  So I said to myself: “Why don’t you check that out.”  The ad suggested that the advertisers in question were seeking Beta testers to check out their new rock climbing-based social network.  I then thought to myself: “You’re on a social network right now.  Maybe this one would be cool too.”

So I clicked.  I was taken to a site offering me a free T-shirt to become a beta tester.  Interesting.  Not great.  Just interesting.  That’s a pretty old-fashioned marketing technique for a web 2.0-style site.  But hey, I wear t-shirts all the time.  And clearly these guys are not appealing to Twittering tech geeks (at least, not unless they also climb rocks.)  They are going after a niche (technically, it will have to be a niche within a niche, those who like rock climbing, and who also frequent the internet / social networking world.)  So, they decided to throw some marketing dollars into it.  I sort of get that – I guess.  I mean, they are going after a tough to reach audience.  Kinda.

What really threw me for a loop was the scammy, “sign up for 2 or more credit cards” advertisement I was shown right after I signed up for the Beta.  I gave them my info (email, DOB, gender, the basics), hit submit, and was immediately shown an advertisement displaying an awesome package deal of rock climbing gear, as long as I sign up for at least 2 services, for a fee of no more than $5.  Super ghetto.  Giant turn off.  Totally inappropriate.

I just find the whole thing frankly weird.  Are they trying to make ad money already?   On the signups to the private Beta they haven’t finished offering?  They’re throwing money away on the one hand (paying for ads they don’t really need,) and then trying to re-coup it in a totally inappropriate way on the other (serving creepy, spam ads.)  Here’s what I don’t understand:

  • Crankjam is advertising on facebook for beta testers?  $$$
  • Crankjam is giving away a free t-shirt for beta testing?  $$$
  • Crankjam is pushing credit card schemes (and netflix memberships) after Beta signup?  Too weird.

Now I’m not just trying to be a pill here.  I like rock climbing.  And I like social networking.  I think it could be a great site.  I just don’t understand what they’re doing – seems like they’re robbing Peter to pay Paul.  Why are they buying ads on Facebook to recruit for their private beta?  More importantly, why are they serving spam ads right after.  Here’s some of the things I think they should be doing:

  • Use free social media: Twitter, FriendFeed, FB fan pages, Jaiku, Pownce, Message Boards, Discussion Forums, make a funny video on Youtube, create a channel on 12seconds - there’s all kinds of social media and services with which to create community and market yourself.  The key here is to be active in the community, spend time there, follow people, listen to what they say, and make sure they know you’re a real person, not a spam bot.  Then ask them questions.  What do you think of this idea?  Do you know anyone who likes rock climbing?  Get some real market data, and recruit some real Beta testers.
  • Partner up with other people – do a little Business Development.  Reach out to the admins at rock climbing forums and retailers – tell them you want to trade some ad space and partner up.  You’re creating a rock climbing social network.  They sell gear to rock climbers (or provide a locale for them to gather and share thoughts.)  It’s a good fit and a win-win situation.
  • Contact University groups – every college campus in America has a rock climbing club, rock wall, rock gym, etc.  Every one of those groups has young people who like to climb, every one of which uses the internet on a daily basis.  That’s your target audience.  Recruit them.  Buy them pizza (instead of FB ads) and recruit there.

This is the news announcement they’ve issued, and there’s an excerpt below.  Crankjam is a mass producer of niche social networks based in Columbia, South Carolina.  Lifefitter in turn seems to be a product of another “incubator” called LoudDoor, also based in South Carolina.  Now, the Lifefitter guys seem to sort of “get it.”  They have a blog.  And they’re even writing some posts that express expertise and understanding of their space.  Kudos, that’s sincerely excellent.  They are creating a bunch of niched social networks, online communities for the outdoor (and technologically) minded.  Cool.  Personally I think Ning makes more sense, where existing communities can form their own online social network, but there’s a place for this product too.  It’s even a cool idea.

However, this spammy approach is creepy, up and down. It’s disconcerting.  If I had to give this a numeric rating, on a scale of 1 to 10, I’d call it a 2.  And that’s without ever getting a chance to see the product itself.  Purely based on the experience of finding and signing up for the Beta, I am truly uncomfortable.

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Lifefitter to release CrankJam, a social network for rock climbers, in private beta.

Columbia, SC: Today, Lifefitter Networks announced CrankJam, a new social network dedicated to the rock climbing community. The site is accepting requests for invitations to the beta program and will be released in private beta within the next 45 days.

“Rock climbing is such an intense sport, it takes a lot of guts to go out and climb all over the world,” said General Manager Bobby Redfern.

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  1. Mattb4rd | October 6, 2008 at 4:21 pm | Permalink

    Found out about your site from FriendFeed. Very cool and very forwarded to a friend that is into rock climbing.

  2. Social Bookmarks | October 7, 2008 at 10:38 am | Permalink

    I don\’t normally leave comments… but I really enjoyed your post! I will be leaving a link back here in my blogroll! Thanks!

  3. Lloyd | October 23, 2008 at 8:17 pm | Permalink

    Agreed. I found this site through the facebook ad as well. Before I gave them my info, I read the privacy policy. Get this:

    “If you choose to participate in one of our sites, we may use cookies to track the websites you from which you make purchases. We may use this information to show you special offers from those websites upon return visits to a LF property.

    In addition, we might receive information about you from other online or offline sources and may add that information to your existing account. Please note that LifeFitter may maintain the information you provided whether or not you elect to use any of our affiliated services.”

    No thank you.

  4. outdoor guy | November 1, 2008 at 1:53 pm | Permalink

    It’s a targeted-advertising campaign designed to push relevant products based on the personal information you provide. But I’m not sure how interested in rock climbing these folks are. They seem to have these sites set up for about every type of outdoor activity. For example, in addition to Crankjam.com, there’s:

    Slopeforce.com (skiing/boarding),
    paddlespin.com (kayak),
    trailgrind.com (mountain biking),
    reefdrift.com (scuba), and
    outpacker.com (hiking).

    There are probably others.

  5. TradChicks | December 11, 2008 at 1:48 pm | Permalink

    I ended up with the SAME experience with trailgrind.com – saw an opportunity to be a beta tester on offered on Facebook, signed up several months ago – STILL no word on my tee shirt AND offered me the credit card scam too. Hmmm. And the “pro” listed on EACH site… is the SAME guy. Now, I’m good…but how many sports can a guy be a “pro” at… this guy, Bobby Redfern, is a self proclaimed “pro” at climbing, tennis, surfing, skiing… the list goes on. And he lives in South Carolina? Come on man.
    Launch your sites organically and IF you are worth your salt, people will find you AND keep coming back.

  6. TradChicks | December 11, 2008 at 1:50 pm | Permalink

    P.S. I “dugg” your post too. Climbers beware…

  7. Bob | January 2, 2009 at 9:54 am | Permalink

    It’s a marketing scam of course. I like how they are offering a “Black Diamond Alpine Body (sic) harness”. Crappy harness, and they don’t even get the name right. Obviously not climber driven.
    Go to rockclimbing.com or Mountain Project instead of this schlock.

  8. Reggie | January 6, 2009 at 9:56 pm | Permalink

    I did a little research and came up with a few very informative links:

    http://www.lifefitter.blogspot.com
    -they have an up-to-date dev blog on what’s actually going on with their platforms
    tons of comments and people already excited for what lifefitter is doing.

    http://www.lifefitter.com/lf_new_site/whatwedo.html
    -A pretty layman’s explanation of what they are doing exactly

    it seems to me that beta testing and that free whatever thing aren’t even related. i just registered, saw it as an ad….and closed the window. hopefully we’ll see some more progress from these guys. personally..i’m excited about the whole thing.

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